James wrote:Fair enough if you want thrash that sounds like Britney Spears. I don't have a problem with those production jobs, I can hear everything well enough and I prefer their sound to a lot of modern releases which lack identity.

You can have good production whilst getting a Thrash album that has attitude and identity. There's fuck all wrong with the production on Reign In Blood or Coma of Souls. I just think stuff like Pleasure To Kill and Spectrum of Death is rough because the people involved were completely incompetent and not because they wanted it to sound naff.

I'm just saying that doesn't put me off, and often I quite enjoy it (as long as I can hear all the instruments) - I'm all for songwriting, but I think albums like Schizophrenia easily tick that box as well as most.

I'm with Iain, bad recordings put me off. Ironic, I know, considering Pulverizer's EP, but still, I can't listen to poor recordings, no matter how good the music is.

I just find that poor recordings often go with poor musicianship and poor song writing. It's not surprising really because when most Thrash bands start out they have hee-haw in the way of time and money to actually do a good job on the album. That's generally why you go from In the Sign of Evil to Agent Orange; Pleasure to Kill to Coma of Souls; Sentence of Death to Cracked Brain etc etc.

Whether it's Thrash or not, I'm not going to listen to an album if the people playing on it can't play their instruments properly. When it's Thrash and you get people who can't play it just sounds like mush. Honestly, why tremolo picking around the first six frets on the low E string whilst getting someone who can barely speak English to shout incoherently appeals to people, I do not know.

Beneath the Remains is easily my favourite by Sep. Arise is a close second. I've gone through stages of listening to the two album nearly every day for 2 years in a row back when I was in college. Schizophrenia is ace too, and Morbid Visions and Bestial Devestation. But Arise and Beneath the Remains are just fucking awesome, very chaotic sounding. Love it!!
I quite like Chaos AD but I don't remember the last time I listened to it. Don't like Roots at all.

I don't mind Chaos AD. The Hunt is shit, but in a brilliant sort of way.

beneath the remains is amazing, shame how gant they are now

Roots is gant Chaos AD is ace and still has amazing thrashy songs like Pro-Pee-Gay-Der (in the words of Seregon).

Its all about Bestial Devastation, Schizophrenia and Beneath the Remains.

I like sepultura when they developed a groove sound in addition to the thrash parts. Arise and chaos from the early years and dante and nation from later is the shit. People kinda slag off the later stuff without giving it a chance. As far as i'm concerned Kisser the fuckin man and paulo and max are as solid a rhythm section you're gonna get. The new one a-lex lacked that groove i felt and there were a lot of faffing around.

I agree with whoever said that if you can't play your instruments it's not worth listening too, they even said they didn't know what the fuck they were doing on the morbid visions and bestial devastion releases, and i find those hard to listen to extensivley.

I enjoy Dante a lot. Buut most of the new albums arent great. Nation has its moments, but Dante is the only good one i think. I really enjoy Dante a lot.

I enjoy the first two releases a lot. There was a lot of classics that came from them. Necromancer, Troops of Doom and Antichrist. And they still play these live so its all good.

Amazing band, every thing they did in the Max ear had a huge impact on music.

BTR and Arise are my personal favourits, don't think I have to say how influenced Nebs are by them.

Some of the new non max albums are cool, some arn't. I just really think they should have changed the name cos they're a completly different band now. It's had the same effect I would imagin Audioslave would have had if they had kept the name Rage Against the Machine

All first 5 albums are awesome, some songs on roots are ok but I never listened to anything after roots.

I checke dout Roots just because it had Attitude on it, which was the firts Sepultura song I heard I think. The firts four or five tracks are bearable, after that it goes 100% gant.

No point in checking out anything after Roots RedBurp, its all pretty fucking terrible.

The first Sepultura album I ever heard was 'Against', when I was in secondary school renting "heavy" albums from the town library.

It put me off Sepultura for about four years, and remains one of the worst things I've ever listened to.