MartinC wrote:'Complete'. That's like saying "Oooh this piece of music is interesting". It's either good or bad. Pretentious knobs!

I have to agree with Martin.

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Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:Name one song by any Death Metal band that's more complete than Dreaming in Red. Do it.

See? You can't.

Death - Pull the Plug
Darkthrone - Cromlech
Kaamos - Corpus Vermis
Immolation - Father, You're Not A Father
Immolation - Christ's Cage
Morbid Angel - Visions from the Darkside
Morbid Angel - Lord of All Fevers and Plagues
Repugnant - Spawn of Pure Malevolence

etc. etc. etc.

Bestial Bill wrote:

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:Name one song by any Death Metal band that's more complete than Dreaming in Red. Do it.

See? You can't.

Death - Pull the Plug
NO
Darkthrone - Cromlech
NO
Kaamos - Corpus Vermis
NO
Immolation - Father, You're Not A Father
NO
Immolation - Christ's Cage
NO
Morbid Angel - Visions from the Darkside
NO
Morbid Angel - Lord of All Fevers and Plagues
NO
Repugnant - Spawn of Pure Malevolence
NO
etc. etc. etc.

If you're gonna use a Mordbid Angels song at least use a good one.

Just out of interest:

a) Why aren't those Morbid Angel songs good?
b) What songs by them are better?
c) What makes a 'complete' death metal song?

I think Dismember get boring. I used to love them, but now I don't listen to them very much. Dreaming in Red IS awesome, but there are so many better death metal songs than that.

Anything by Death, specially the Individual Thought Patterns album, is a good place to find better death metal!

That's my opinion anyway.

the last two Death album's weren;t really death metal though, more like progressive metal. Still pwn though.

Bestial Bill wrote::shock:

Just out of interest:

a) Why aren't those Morbid Angel songs good?
b) What songs by them are better?
c) What makes a 'complete' death metal song?

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a) I just think they hardly stand out compared so say, God of Emptiness, Where the Slime Live, Suffocation, Hatework etc
b) Most of their catalogue
c) I don't know, it just seemed the best way to describe it.

GoreBastard wrote:I think Dismember get boring. I used to love them, but now I don't listen to them very much. Dreaming in Red IS awesome, but there are so many better death metal songs than that.

Anything by Death, specially the Individual Thought Patterns album, is a good place to find better death metal!

That's my opinion anyway.

Aye ITP is awesome.

Perhaps you could explain why my choices aren't complete death metal songs any more than Dreaming in Red is?

Mind you, I wouldn't expect much from someone whose favourite MA songs are generally from the period where they became more commercial, simple and LESS DEATH METAL!

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:a) I just think they hardly stand out compared so say, God of Emptiness, Where the Slime Live, Suffocation, Hatework etc

You aint really old school enuff are you

Bestial Bill wrote:Perhaps you could explain why my choices aren't complete death metal songs any more than Dreaming in Red is?

Mind you, I wouldn't expect much from someone whose favourite MA songs are generally from the period where they became more commercial, simple and LESS DEATH METAL!

So Morbid Angels only death metal album was Altars? I have altars on picture disc LP and play the shit out of it, don't treat me like some noob.

Complete was just an alternate way of saying great. But now you mention it, Dreaming has melody, intensity, tempo changes, great performance vocally and an apocalyptic guitar tone.

Lord of All Fevers and Plagues, as an example, has intensity but thats about it. What use is speed and aggression if you don't have something to contrast it with? That's why Altars gets so boring. There's no real distinction between the songs.

I spose you could always contrast it with something thats not death metal.

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:So Morbid Angels only death metal album was Altars? I have altars on picture disc LP and play the shit out of it, don't treat me like some noob.

Lord of All Fevers and Plagues, as an example, has intensity but thats about it. What use is speed and aggression if you don't have something to contrast it with? That's why Altars gets so boring. There's no real distinction between the songs.

No, Altars isn't their only death metal album, but I think that Domination and, to some degree Covenant, while great metal records, aren't that dark or obscure, and further have fairly simple structures.

What Morbid Angel were great at in their early days was for me complete death metal: obscure melodies, measured blasting, killer riffing, loads of time changes, complex but memorable songs, superb individual performances, great lyrics, etc. If you think all the songs on Altars sound the same then it seems we haven't been listening to the same album. Strange that you 'play the shit' out of an album that 'gets so boring.'

I voted for Dismember, though I don't feel strongly enough about that choice to argue my case against the other bands.

Bestial Bill wrote:

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:So Morbid Angels only death metal album was Altars? I have altars on picture disc LP and play the shit out of it, don't treat me like some noob.

Lord of All Fevers and Plagues, as an example, has intensity but thats about it. What use is speed and aggression if you don't have something to contrast it with? That's why Altars gets so boring. There's no real distinction between the songs.

No, Altars isn't their only death metal album, but I think that Domination and, to some degree Covenant, while great metal records, aren't that dark or obscure, and further have fairly simple structures.

What Morbid Angel were great at in their early days was for me complete death metal: obscure melodies, measured blasting, killer riffing, loads of time changes, complex but memorable songs, superb individual performances, great lyrics, etc. If you think all the songs on Altars sound the same then it seems we haven't been listening to the same album. Strange that you 'play the shit' out of an album that 'gets so boring.'

Strange that you only like 'obscure' bands. You didn't say Domination or Covenant, you said Morbid Angels later stuff directly after mentioning Altars. Blessed Are The Sick is far better than Altars.

Standout songs on Altars? Chapel of Ghouls, Suffocation and Immortal Rites.