Scotland has a national anthem...wales...ireland...

England? - Nah. We just use the British Anthem. And I think that's super mega massive gay. And so do you. So sign this.


http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Anthemss/

Sorry mate,you seem a good sort,but I make a point of never signing internet petitions.

Who gives a toss.

should make a THRASHINAL ANTHEM.... erm.....

Don't get me started on England and anthems.

And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush

I don't give a shit if only the first verse of God Save the Queen is used, the song just shouldn't be used. And the complete tit that wrote it blatantly had very little grasp of politics as Jacobites and Scots were no where near being one and the same. Scots fought in the British Army against the Jacobites at the Battle of Culloden.

I'm a pretty Unionist Scot, but I find it a complete joke that Scots are often expected to sing God Save the Queen. Perhaps if we weren't then we wouldn't have the references to England and King Edward in our own anthem which, incidentally, I also hate.

To answer your question - No, I don't think England should have its own anthem; Britain shouldn't have an anthem and it definitely shouldn't be referred to as a national anthem seeing as Britain (I'm not sure if God Save the Queen is used in Northern Ireland) is not a nation. England can take God Save the Queen. Just as long as I don't have to hear it again.

GOD SAVE OUR... ZZZZZZZZ!

I don't even know the words, that's how arsed I am.

Metal Iain wrote:Don't get me started on England and anthems.

And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush

I don't give a shit if only the first verse of God Save the Queen is used, the song just shouldn't be used. And the complete tit that wrote it blatantly had very little grasp of politics as Jacobites and Scots were no where near being one and the same. Scots fought in the British Army against the Jacobites at the Battle of Culloden.

I'm a pretty Unionist Scot, but I find it a complete joke that Scots are often expected to sing God Save the Queen. Perhaps if we weren't then we wouldn't have the references to England and King Edward in our own anthem which, incidentally, I also hate.

To answer your question - No, I don't think England should have its own anthem; Britain shouldn't have an anthem and it definitely shouldn't be referred to as a national anthem seeing as Britain (I'm not sure if God Save the Queen is used in Northern Ireland) is not a nation. England can take God Save the Queen. Just as long as I don't have to hear it again.

GOD SAVE OUR... ZZZZZZZZ!

Yeah. Because 'Scots' couldn't just have referred to the rebellious ones, and not the people as a whole, right?



For the record, i'm a McKay, not like the rest of the English guys who haven't got a clue about the whole thing.

I agree with you largely, just I think you're taking that line out of context.

Metal Iain wrote:God Save the Queen.

wasn't that a song by some punk band or something?

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:

Metal Iain wrote:Don't get me started on England and anthems.

And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush

I don't give a shit if only the first verse of God Save the Queen is used, the song just shouldn't be used. And the complete tit that wrote it blatantly had very little grasp of politics as Jacobites and Scots were no where near being one and the same. Scots fought in the British Army against the Jacobites at the Battle of Culloden.

I'm a pretty Unionist Scot, but I find it a complete joke that Scots are often expected to sing God Save the Queen. Perhaps if we weren't then we wouldn't have the references to England and King Edward in our own anthem which, incidentally, I also hate.

To answer your question - No, I don't think England should have its own anthem; Britain shouldn't have an anthem and it definitely shouldn't be referred to as a national anthem seeing as Britain (I'm not sure if God Save the Queen is used in Northern Ireland) is not a nation. England can take God Save the Queen. Just as long as I don't have to hear it again.

GOD SAVE OUR... ZZZZZZZZ!

Yeah. Because 'Scots' couldn't just have referred to the rebellious ones, and not the people as a whole, right?



For the record, i'm a McKay, not like the rest of the English guys who haven't got a clue about the whole thing.

I agree with you largely, just I think you're taking that line out of context.

Then as a McKay you'll understand that in 1745 it would be somewhat of a misnomer to refer to the whole of the Scottish population as 'Scots' or hint at a unified Scottish nationality that simply didn't exist. Sure, what with the Highland Clearances and the emergence of English as the lingua franca in Scotland, today it's fair to refer to a Pict as a Scot. At the time, not really.

Either the guy that wrote God Save the Queen was an ill-informed ignoramus or he was just a complete tit.

For the record, I'm an Atkinson yet I know fuck all about Lancashire. What do second names really count for?

Metal Iain wrote: For the record, I'm an Atkinson yet I know fuck all about Lancashire. What do second names really count for?

The better a surname rhymes with a rude word, the more likely you are to have your childhood ruined by childish taunts.

Twatkinson.

Harris rhymes with Paris.... how many times have I heard that one?

Metal Iain wrote:

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:

Metal Iain wrote:Don't get me started on England and anthems.

And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush

I don't give a shit if only the first verse of God Save the Queen is used, the song just shouldn't be used. And the complete tit that wrote it blatantly had very little grasp of politics as Jacobites and Scots were no where near being one and the same. Scots fought in the British Army against the Jacobites at the Battle of Culloden.

I'm a pretty Unionist Scot, but I find it a complete joke that Scots are often expected to sing God Save the Queen. Perhaps if we weren't then we wouldn't have the references to England and King Edward in our own anthem which, incidentally, I also hate.

To answer your question - No, I don't think England should have its own anthem; Britain shouldn't have an anthem and it definitely shouldn't be referred to as a national anthem seeing as Britain (I'm not sure if God Save the Queen is used in Northern Ireland) is not a nation. England can take God Save the Queen. Just as long as I don't have to hear it again.

GOD SAVE OUR... ZZZZZZZZ!

Yeah. Because 'Scots' couldn't just have referred to the rebellious ones, and not the people as a whole, right?



For the record, i'm a McKay, not like the rest of the English guys who haven't got a clue about the whole thing.

I agree with you largely, just I think you're taking that line out of context.

Then as a McKay you'll understand that in 1745 it would be somewhat of a misnomer to refer to the whole of the Scottish population as 'Scots' or hint at a unified Scottish nationality that simply didn't exist. Sure, what with the Highland Clearances and the emergence of English as the lingua franca in Scotland, today it's fair to refer to a Pict as a Scot. At the time, not really.

Either the guy that wrote God Save the Queen was an ill-informed ignoramus or he was just a complete tit.

For the record, I'm an Atkinson yet I know fuck all about Lancashire. What do second names really count for?

Atkinson isn't a clan with heritage. I just take an interest in my family history I guess.

I think the guy who wrote it was both. And I really hate the anthem too.

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:Atkinson isn't a clan with heritage. I just take an interest in my family history I guess

Do you know how many people there are with the surname McKay?

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:

Metal Iain wrote:

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:

Metal Iain wrote:Don't get me started on England and anthems.

And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush

I don't give a shit if only the first verse of God Save the Queen is used, the song just shouldn't be used. And the complete tit that wrote it blatantly had very little grasp of politics as Jacobites and Scots were no where near being one and the same. Scots fought in the British Army against the Jacobites at the Battle of Culloden.

I'm a pretty Unionist Scot, but I find it a complete joke that Scots are often expected to sing God Save the Queen. Perhaps if we weren't then we wouldn't have the references to England and King Edward in our own anthem which, incidentally, I also hate.

To answer your question - No, I don't think England should have its own anthem; Britain shouldn't have an anthem and it definitely shouldn't be referred to as a national anthem seeing as Britain (I'm not sure if God Save the Queen is used in Northern Ireland) is not a nation. England can take God Save the Queen. Just as long as I don't have to hear it again.

GOD SAVE OUR... ZZZZZZZZ!

Yeah. Because 'Scots' couldn't just have referred to the rebellious ones, and not the people as a whole, right?



For the record, i'm a McKay, not like the rest of the English guys who haven't got a clue about the whole thing.

I agree with you largely, just I think you're taking that line out of context.

Then as a McKay you'll understand that in 1745 it would be somewhat of a misnomer to refer to the whole of the Scottish population as 'Scots' or hint at a unified Scottish nationality that simply didn't exist. Sure, what with the Highland Clearances and the emergence of English as the lingua franca in Scotland, today it's fair to refer to a Pict as a Scot. At the time, not really.

Either the guy that wrote God Save the Queen was an ill-informed ignoramus or he was just a complete tit.

For the record, I'm an Atkinson yet I know fuck all about Lancashire. What do second names really count for?

Atkinson isn't a clan with heritage. I just take an interest in my family history I guess.

I think the guy who wrote it was both. And I really hate the anthem too.

BAH!

If there's anything that irritates me more than God Save the Queen it's people emphasising their Scottish heritage. I hear it's particularly bad in Canada...

Perhaps that's why they say 'eh' (and Americans say 'man') so much.

thrashduck wrote:

Metal Iain wrote: For the record, I'm an Atkinson yet I know fuck all about Lancashire. What do second names really count for?

The better a surname rhymes with a rude word, the more likely you are to have your childhood ruined by childish taunts.

Twatkinson.

Fool!

Atkinson was abbreviated to Aki (a nickname that ran with me between the ages of 11 and 18) and rhymes with paki. Not that I'm racist but being called Aki the Paki got to me when we were playing football.