I forgot to mention, i was very, very high at the time.

I also feel for the whole atmosphere of the film, it really sucked me in.

Goodness me, so many things to talk about. I do love a good conversation about films.

Dian Wei wrote:My favourite film of all time is One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

If you have not seen it, or worse didn't like it i will end you.

Drunken Master (The best Jackie Chan film, followed by Snake In The Eagles Shadow)
Big Trouble In Little China ("This is a good knife Mr Burton")
The Empire Strikes Back (Aka The best one)

What a wonder. Yes indeed, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest is a brilliant film indeed. Definitely Jack Nicholson's best film without a doubt. Although I haven't seen Chinatown and I really want to, but that stupid program last night ruined the ending for me.

Drunken Master is indeed amazing, as is Big Trouble In Little China! That is such a classic film of my childhood. Kurt Russell is fucking cool in that. The evil dude (Lo Pan is it?) used to really scare me when I was younger, especially when he opened his mouth and the blinding madness came out of that and his eyes. Amazing! And yes indeed, I am with agreement with Empire is definitely the best Star Wars film. If Return of the Jedi didn't have all the stupid shit in it, it would come very close because of the whole amazing end bit, but what can you do.

Atom wrote:Terminator 2 (the greatest film ever made)

Atom, I congratulate you on your choice. There were many years of my schoolife when T2 was my favourite film of all time too. Then The Matrix took over, then I saw LOTR and then The Matrix sequels came out which completely ruined any memories I had of The Matrix. But I still really love Terminator 2. I don't care what anyone says, it's fucking amazing!

Hostile wrote:Pan's Labyrinth? Really? An excellent film no doubt, but I didn't know people felt so passionately about it. I guess Del Toro REALLY fucking exceeded himself there.

Really indeed. Just because I have never seen anything like it, and when the fantasy thing is done well, it's one of my favourite things. As is a good war movie, and this combines the two so perfectly beyond belief. And I love how rather than a fantasy war film (like LOTR for example), it's a proper real war movie but with an extra fantasy storyline which is just rather incidental, but still done amaizngly well. And it's just such a well made film, it looks amazing, sounds amazing, the acting is top notch, especially from that little girl, and the Captain is the scariest man in the world. And that's another example of how amaizng it is. Despite all the scary things that happen in the fantasy parts of the story, the Captain still remains the scariest thing about the whole film. And not in an 'Aarrgh I'm an evil villian' way, but in a 'Hello I'm a normal man but I'm also a fucking cunt, get out of my way' way. It's just one of the most affecting films I've seen in a long long time.

I still really want to see The Prestige too.

I am still not seeing how Terminator 2 is better than one.

Yeah the villain from BTLC is Lo Pan.


I am yet to see Pan's Labyrinth, but the guy directed Hellboy which is hands down the best comic to film conversion. So it should be pretty good. The prestige like all magic just looked faggy to me.

But The Prestige looked like quite a dark ye olde magic film, so I'm still intrigued to see what it's actually about.

For me, I prefer T2 to the first one because the storyline's a bit more complex, different subplots and such (well not many but I really like how it sidetracks to them trying to stop judgement day before it goes back to the main storyline), there's a bit more emotional depth (just a bit mind you) and it's more epic which always floats my boat. Plus the T1000 is a much more scary villain than Arnie was in the first one in my opinion. Though there are still some scary bits in the first one, like when he takes his eye out and the bit in the police station. Great stuff.

T1 is obviously a classic too, and I can definitely see why you'd prefer it over the second one, it's just quite different I suppose. I saw it in the cinema a couple of years ago when the cinema in Leeds city centre were doing a month of classic film fun, before it got taken over by bloody Vue. It was amazing. They also showed The Shawshank Redemption and Apocalypse Now Redux - I tell you, bloody hell. Those two films in the cinema were unbelievable. And that was the first time I saw Apocalypse Now, it made my brain go bloody insane. They also showed Batman, but I missed that.

Dian Wei wrote:

And yep, that's definitely one of the scariest images from my childhood!

I can't really think off the top of my head but:

Dr Strangelove
Fight Club
Old Boy
Misery
Full Metal Jacket

Are all very good films that haven't been mentioned. I have been heavily deprived of some films especially horror/thrillers. No Aliens, no Deads. I do want to change this. Also, I am one of the few people in the world to not really like Terminator.

Forgot about Oldboy. Great film, that one. Twists and turns like a big twisty-turny thing.

Fucking Yes! That in my top ten. I have such affinity with him.

STD_Caps wrote:I can't really think off the top of my head but:

Dr Strangelove
Fight Club
Old Boy
Misery
Full Metal Jacket

Are all very good films that haven't been mentioned. I have been heavily deprived of some films especially horror/thrillers. No Aliens, no Deads. I do want to change this. Also, I am one of the few people in the world to not really like Terminator.

Indeed, I really need to see Oldboy, Hearn keeps telling me how amazing it is, and I believe him. Fight Club was almost in my top 5 but then got pushed out by Pan's Labyrinth. What a ridiculously amazing film. And yes indeed to Full Metal Jacket. I only watched that recently, and again I thought it was ridiculously amazing. Definitely one of the best war movies I've seen, along with Apocalypse Now and The Deer Hunter.

Misery is one of the fucking scariest films I've ever seen, though I haven't seen it for years. But Kathy Bates used to scare the shit out of me in that film when I was younger. That bit with the hammer, and the feet.... eeuuurrrgh. But then I saw the French & Saunders version of it and it ruined the whole thing for me.

But back to war movies, has anyone seen Downfall? The German film about the last days of Hitler. Bloody fantastic stuff.

Oh yeah, and also yes indeed to Taxi Driver!

Downfall was really good, the the guy who played Goebbels was fucking scary.

Fight Club is a really good film, the book is also very good. As for FMJ, R. Lee Ermey makes that film for me.

"Bullshit, i bet you could suck a golfball through a garden hose!" Or "I like you. You can come over my house and fuck my sister" Amazing quotes.

He was also in Mississippi Burning which is an amazing film. There are just too many good films in the world.

Dian Wei wrote:Downfall was really good, the the guy who played Goebbels was fucking scary.

He was, wasn't he? He had such a strange face. And the guy who played Hitler was brilliant. He played it so well, there were even moments where you watched him and thought, "Aw, he's quite a nice chap really..." and then he suddenly goes mad into a rage of psycho madness and makes you piss your pants. Good lord, especially that bit where he finds out that Himmler has betrayed him at the dinner, and he suddenly goes into a mad fit of shouting and madness. He manages to become really menacing, but without being 'evil' like a movie villain would.

I really love that in proper films, where 'bad guys' are played with compassion and understanding, so that whilst you won't ever sympathise with them, you can at least empathise with them. Well, perhaps not in Hitler's case, I just don't understand that bloke at all. But at the end of the day he was still human - he was not just a movie villian that someone made up on a piece of paper, there must've been so many ridiculous things going on in his brain, and in Downfall you can kind of see how much of a fucked up guy he actually was. And take Raging Bull for example - Jake La Motta was obviously a cunt of epic proportions, but the movie doesn't just paint him as a bad man, it portrays him as a human being. Which is also why Robert De Niro is one of the best actors in the world, because he can play these bad people with compassion and make them seem like a real human being rather than just an evil villain, so much so that you actually feel sorry for them when it all goes tits up.

An example of the complete opposite of what I'm trying to talk about is Pearl Harbour. Even mentioning the name just makes me want to vomit... But in that film, which for some reason I watched the entire length of, all the Japanese are played like evil villians in a fucking disney film, with all this evil music going on everywhere. All the Americans are prancing around having a lovely time being lovely folk, and then every now and again the film cuts to all the Japanese sitting in a circle like evil men being trained by an evil overlord to destroy the world. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's what it was like, I don't know, I wasn't there. But somehow... I doubt it.

jonny_boy34 wrote:All the Americans are prancing around having a lovely time being lovely folk, and then every now and again the film cuts to all the Japanese sitting in a circle like evil men being trained by an evil overlord to destroy the world. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's what it was like, I don't know, I wasn't there. But somehow... I doubt it.

So true. The japanese kids are all murderers, they play around big evil kamikaze pilots. The poor american kids sit playing with their toys, whilst looking up at the sky and going "GEE WHIZ SOME JAPS!". Terrible film. I also watched it all the way through.

I also thought Downfall was awesome. They did it right.

Well fuck, now I actually WANT to watch Pearl Harbor.

Did I just read "Big Trouble in Little China" on that list?! hahaha, crazy.