You're going to have to get into debt at some point in your life, unless you never plan to own a car or a house. I probably have about £5, 000 of debt from being a student anyway. In for a penny, in for a pound and thank fuck I'm not English and all that.

Right...

What the fuck is going on with this thing? Like, how am I meant to drop and drag folders into it without it crashing? I've already had to reset it.

BOOO!!!!

Got it sort of going now. Like, I just preferred being able to listen to my playlists and then having them on my iPod. This just throws a massive turd-Yorkie into the fan. Still...

You can still sync playlists between the Zen and WMP, I'm on my MacBook so I don't have WMP, but I think if you go to the Sync tab, then right-click on your Zen in the list on the right, then click on "Set Up Sync" (or similar) you can choose which playlists to shift over.

But that's every-so-slightly annoying because I have some .m4a files which WMP won't let me add but which can be added to the Zen with the Zen Explorer thing. I actually managed to get more or less everything up and running with it fine in the end. My only issue is I that I wish Creative had a media player that just overlapped with the Zen.

What about getting videos on BTW? Do I have to try to convert everything to DivX?

The Zen is slightly annoying for videos because you have to convert them to the exact format and resolution that it supports. I haven't played with it for videos yet because I haven't needed to, so you're on your own there.

M4A files won't be recognised by the Zen itself, so you can transfer them but not play them. You can transfer any kind of file you want onto the Zen (even use it as an external hard drive if you want to) but the Zen will only recognise and play files that it supports.

I'd try finding some kind of M4A to MP3 converter (I haven't had to find Windows converters for ages coz everything's built in with Linux) so if you can convert all of the M4A files to MP3 files you'll be fine. No idea why everyone likes using proprietary formats anyway, MP3 is readable by almost everything, so where's the problem with it?

You would be best to use the creative software that came with it for converting and transferring videos. I stuck Get Thrashed on mine and it took about 4 hours to convert and transfer.

WMA fails just as much as M4A. It's a proprietary format

Craig wrote:The Zen is slightly annoying for videos because you have to convert them to the exact format and resolution that it supports. I haven't played with it for videos yet because I haven't needed to, so you're on your own there.

M4A files won't be recognised by the Zen itself, so you can transfer them but not play them. You can transfer any kind of file you want onto the Zen (even use it as an external hard drive if you want to) but the Zen will only recognise and play files that it supports.

I'd try finding some kind of M4A to MP3 converter (I haven't had to find Windows converters for ages coz everything's built in with Linux) so if you can convert all of the M4A files to MP3 files you'll be fine. No idea why everyone likes using proprietary formats anyway, MP3 is readable by almost everything, so where's the problem with it?

I just ripped the CDs using iTunes before realising I could change the format I could rip in. I'd have used MP3 otherwise...

Aye, but it works on the Zen and once you have tried Zen, you never go back.

So, what happens if I want to convert a .avi file and stick it on? I've tried it but the Zen Explorer is having none of it. Do I have to get a separate converter or what?

I had problems with some avi files for some reason. I have a Prong video that the Zen convereter didn't fancy.

But all my American Dads etc are .avis.

WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

wrong choice iain