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Postby Steve on Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:41 pm

Destruction wrote:
you must believe that this is a decision that comes completely from the heart and is not motivated by anything other than what feels the best for ICED EARTH


In Other words the new records have been selling shit so I'm hoping people will give a shit about Iced Earth again if I get Matt back.

Booting out members for no good reason is bullshit but no doubt people won't care much because they'll be too busy wanking over the fact Matt is back.


*takes hand of of trousers*

Umm, how do you mean?

On a serious note I agree. It's like the fact Pyramaze have hired Barlow, as it will obviously gain them more attention. Nevertheless Barlow is one of my favourite vocalists and would love to see him perform with Iced Earth in the flesh, which will hopefully make up for the rather disappointing performance at Wacken
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Postby FaceTheSlayer on Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:48 pm

Metal Iain wrote:I wonder how long till they rerecord all the Ripper stuff with Matt?


This is what I thought as soon as I read that Matt is returning.

A year or so down the line...

"Oh yeah, we're re-releasing Something Wicked Pt. 1 with Matt's vocals. Apologies to all you loyal fans that foolishly bought the album when it first came out."

Still, I'm stoked that Matt's back. His vocals are awesome.
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Postby STD_Caps on Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:25 pm

Yeah, Matt's voice is great and early Iced Earth is some fucking quality metal. I won't poo-poo this yet.
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Postby Stevedot2 on Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:45 pm

I only read the title but HOLY FUCK!!!

BARLOW FTW!!! Yeeeee :rockdevil:
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Postby thrash metal maniac on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:42 pm

YEAH!!!! He's soooo much more Iced Earth than Ripper, they've now gone from being a 'meh' band, to one of the best metal bands again!!! can't wait to hear the new stuff now :D
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Postby Holy Crap! Lions! on Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:25 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Best news of 2007.
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Postby Stevedot2 on Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:42 pm

thrash metal maniac wrote:YEAH!!!! He's soooo much more Iced Earth than Ripper, they've now gone from being a 'meh' band, to one of the best metal bands again!!! can't wait to hear the new stuff now :D


Yeah I totally agree with that, they've been pretty lame lately, absolutely nothing like the old days when they had Barlow.

But yeah, they just released SW part one, what an awfully piss poor time to decide to do this, still, live for the moment I guess?
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Postby Stevedot2 on Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:32 pm

It will be sometime before I’m going to be doing press due to the holidays and the fact that I’m still deep in the final writing process of Part 2. I’m aware that the news of Matt coming back into to the band has taken many people by surprise so I’ll try to explain the situation a little better. I do love Tim’s voice and it is the kind of voice I hear when I write, and he’s really cool person. And I do not want an unnecessary war of words started because certain journalists like to create controversy to sell their magazines. I love Tim as a person and a musician, and I do not have negative feelings towards him at all. We would all appreciate it if the trash peddlers would respect the situation and keep their venomous speculations to themselves. An unlikely request I’m sure, but it would be nice

On the other side, Matt and I are brothers and there was a very deep and spiritual connection that came through in the music that we created and performed together over the years. Iced Earth has always been about passion and honesty in the music, I’m talking about real, raw emotion. That’s what has always made the relationship between the band and the fans a very special thing and it is the thing that made the chemistry that Matt and I had together so special. When we split before, our relationship had suffered from various things, but mostly it came down to not communicating like we should have, which led to things being blown out of proportion. This, coupled with the uncertainty of earning a secure living in the music business, resulted in Matt coming to the decision that he did. I convinced him to stay in the band, which he did, but it was clear that while tracking TGB, he was already mentally finished with music and was moving on to different things and to a more secure future. All of that is behind us and we have grown and matured and will have an even more fulfilling relationship because of what we’ve experienced and learned from the past.

Iced Earth activities will be more limited now because Matt will still be carrying on his career as a law enforcement officer. I would rather we do it this way and have the shows that happen be very special events than to carry on and feel like what’s happening isn’t genuine. This is NOT a cut on Tim. It’s just that Iced Earth really began to blossom after Matt joined the band and for years we worked our asses off together towards a common goal, on stage and off. Those years of work and commitment defined what Iced Earth truly is, and frankly I would rather end it than to carry on without Matt involved. All of this has been coming to a head for a while, and the talks with the fans in Europe helped cement what I already knew needed to happen. It’s one thing to be pressured by our business partners for change, it’s something else entirely when the fan base is overwhelmingly telling me the same thing. This decision is by the fans/for the fans. I wish only the best for Tim, this is not a standard bullshit statement, it’s the truth. A guy with so much talent deserves the best in life and that’s what I wish for him completely.

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Postby GoreBastard on Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:23 am

Everything they did with Ripper was shit. Barlow should never have left. Schaffer is a cock.
They should call it a day now anyway... I don't think they'll ever sound as good as they did, they're too old.
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Postby ribbons69 on Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:44 pm

GoreBastard wrote:Everything they did with Ripper was shit.

Is the wrong answer.
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Postby Stevedot2 on Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:01 pm

ribbons69 wrote:
GoreBastard wrote:Everything they did with Ripper was shit.

Is the wrong answer.


I actually don't like the new album, but GB is a brilliant cd. Ripper did a good version of Dracula, and his version of Iced Earth is more like the original which I think is really cool.
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Postby terrorizer on Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:54 am

Holy Crap! Lions! wrote:WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Best news of 2007.


Seriously? What an uneventful life you must lead.
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Postby GoreBastard on Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:16 pm

ribbons69 wrote:
GoreBastard wrote:Everything they did with Ripper was shit.

Is the wrong answer.


It wasn't an answer, it was a fact! hahaha
Seriously though, I don't mean it was "shit", but the Ripper stuff compared to the stuff they did with Barlow just wasn't the same band.
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Postby Swarmy on Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:08 pm

Stevedot2 wrote:
On the other side, Matt and I are brothers and there was a very deep and spiritual connection that came through in the music that we created and performed together over the years. Iced Earth has always been about passion and honesty in the music, I’m talking about real, raw emotion. That’s what has always made the relationship between the band and the fans a very special thing and it is the thing that made the chemistry that Matt and I had together so special. When we split before, our relationship had suffered from various things, but mostly it came down to not communicating like we should have, which led to things being blown out of proportion. This, coupled with the uncertainty of earning a secure living in the music business, resulted in Matt coming to the decision that he did. I convinced him to stay in the band, which he did, but it was clear that while tracking TGB, he was already mentally finished with music and was moving on to different things and to a more secure future. All of that is behind us and we have grown and matured and will have an even more fulfilling relationship because of what we’ve experienced and learned from the past.


This isn't really about music is it? :lol:
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Postby Darkweasel on Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:35 am

Returning ICED EARTH singer Matt Barlow has issued the following statement:

"Brothers and sisters,

"I'm sure that you are all well aware of things that are happening within ICED EARTH, and a statement from me is well overdue. To that, I can only say that I am sorry for the delay, but there is good reason. Last week, following Jon's [Schaffer, guitar] announcement [Statement#1, Statement#2], my wife gave birth to our second son. Everything is well, but of course, those of you who are parents know how taxing the first week can be. During that time, after all things had begun to settle, I realized that there are a lot of things on my plate. At this point, I needed to address them. As you know, family always comes first. Of course, Jon knows that and understands my decision to leave ICED EARTH four years ago. My wife and I wanting a family was a huge factor. Family is also the reason for my return. There is a kinship that goes beyond the obvious. I will speak of that later.

"First, I feel that I need to acknowledge my friend Michael of PYRAMAZE. If not for his inquiry and persistence in asking me to be a member of that band, I may not have realized how much I have missed and been missed within the metal community. In recent days, however, I have come to realize that my participation in PYRAMAZE cannot go beyond the recording of the band's current work. This is due in part, to the fact that I can't be all places at all times. Michael and I have discussed this, and have come to an understanding. I know that the future success of PYRAMAZE will not be based solely on individual performances of band members, but in the songwriting and total performance of the band, which is excellent. I know that I will give everything I have to the record and will support PYRAMAZE on a lot of other levels.

"Let me proceed on the topic of kinship. For a great portion of our lives, Jon and I dedicated our selves to creating music that pleased, angered, saddened, and inspired. Though it can be argued that my contribution was limited, I always felt very proud of what we accomplished with every song. Whether a song was about a true love, a best friend, a ghost, a devil, or a savior; the songs that wrote gave me the desire to engage each one on a very personal level. When Jon and I began to discuss the future of ICED EARTH and his feeling on its success or failure, he conveyed to me the desire to rediscover the passion of the songs that made ICED EARTH so very special to so many people. In my journey of the last several years, I've had time to acknowledge that there are great stories yet to be told. Moreover, I have recognized my desire to be a part of those stories. As mentioned above, there are obvious time constraints where it relates to family, career, and music. One of those issues has already been addressed.

"As for my career in law enforcement, it will continue as normal. Without going into specific detail, Jon and I will work on recording on my time between shifts. As Jon stated before, live performances will be more limited but grander in fashion. We will do our very best to get to the metal masses as often as possible. Jon understands that this schedule will be tougher to work with, but feels that it will be the best for the fans in the long run. There will be critics, no doubt. It has recently come to my attention that some people don't like the police ;-) Let's see if opinion can change on that issue!

"As for the music, I will bring to ICED EARTH the best performance possible. That has always been my desire, and I'm really excited to work with Jon and the guys again, to give you the best metal possible. If you think you're ready... let's do this!"
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