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Postby James on Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:31 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7613403.stm

I can't believe there is a museum in Portsmouth promoting Creationism as scientifically valid, it makes me so angry! There are lots of imbeciles in this world.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby boovidge on Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:34 pm

ridiculous.

Thank Christ (irony?) that we dont live in America and have to put up with more of that, not only amongst the general public but also high ranking politicians.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby Povey on Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:37 pm

Is that the religion where they believe Jebus made the Dinosaurs? and science is totally false.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby boovidge on Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:42 pm

from http://www.answersingenesis.org

HOW DO DINOSAURS FIT IN WITH THE BIBLE

When Did Dinosaurs Live?

The story we have all heard from movies, television, newspapers, and most magazines and textbooks is that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs ‘ruled the Earth’ for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), and their bones do not have labels attached telling how old they are. The idea of millions of years of evolution is just the evolutionists’ story about the past. No scientist was there to see the dinosaurs live through this supposed dinosaur age. In fact, there is no proof whatsoever that the world and its fossil layers are millions of years old. No scientist observed dinosaurs die. Scientists only find the bones in the here and now, and because many of them are evolutionists, they try to fit the story of the dinosaurs into their view.

Other scientists, called creation scientists, have a different idea about when dinosaurs lived. They believe they can solve any of the supposed dinosaur mysteries and show how the evidence fits wonderfully with their ideas about the past, beliefs that come from the Bible.

The Bible, God’s very special book (or collection of books, really), claims that each writer was supernaturally inspired to write exactly what the Creator of all things wanted him to write down for us so that we can know where we (and dinosaurs) came from, why we are here, and what our future will be. The first book in the Bible—Genesis—teaches us many things about how the universe and life came into existence. Genesis tells us that God created everything—the Earth, stars, sun, moon, plants, animals, and the first two people.

Although the Bible does not tell us exactly how long ago it was that God made the world and its creatures, we can make a good estimate of the date of creation by reading through the Bible and noting some interesting passages:

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God made everything in six days. He did this, by the way, to set a pattern for mankind, which has become our seven day week (as described in Exodus 20:11). God worked for six days and rested for one, as a model for us. Furthermore, Bible scholars will tell you that the Hebrew word for day used in Genesis 1, can only mean an ordinary day in this context.
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We are told God created the first man and woman—Adam and Eve—on Day Six. Many facts about when their children and their children’s children were born are given in Genesis. These genealogies are recorded throughout the Old Testament, up until the time of Christ. They certainly were not chronologies lasting millions of years.

As you add up all of the dates, and accepting that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came to Earth almost 2000 years ago, we come to the conclusion that the creation of the Earth and animals (including the dinosaurs) occurred only thousands of years ago (perhaps only 6000!), not millions of years. Thus, if the Bible is right (and it is!), dinosaurs must have lived within the past thousands of years.


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Re: Creationism!

Postby Metal Iain on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:00 pm

I thought that the Earth being created in six days was a misinterpretation of the Bible; I'd been told that Moses went up to that mountain every day for a week where he would sit and be told by God how the Earth was created. The Bible is long as fuck but I think describing six days in detail would be a bit much, even for the Bible. And does the Bible not talk about beasts and lizards roaming the Earth somewhere towards the back? I'm pretty sure there'll be something about that in there.

I'm not trying to say I believe a word of the Bible but, generally speaking, people incorrectly refer to events that are described in the Bible. I don't think people should write the Bible off completely because they are fervent supporters of Science, but taking the Bible at face value is just plain ridiculous. Jesus was probably just the equivalent of Gandhi but 2, 000 years earlier. Give it a couple of millennia and I'm sure there'll be a seemingly ludicrous book describing what Gandhi did.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby TORSO on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:15 pm

"If we came from nothing and go into nothing... that encourages people to lead reckless and materialistic lifestyles"

So by adding in all the hell business it stops people doing what they wanted....also theres only a couple of religions where hell is a bad place, the Jewish religion doesn't have a eternal hell

Plus i got a book on the Inquisition today, lets just hope that never happens again.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby James on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:23 pm

TORSO wrote:"If we came from nothing and go into nothing... that encourages people to lead reckless and materialistic lifestyles"

So by adding in all the hell business it stops people doing what they wanted....


Yeah, that quote was the most ludicrous part!! :wall:
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Re: Creationism!

Postby Dian Wei on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:42 pm

I actually don't care about religion any more, if people are dumb enough to be taken in by these shisters (and they don't even have to manufacture their own miracles these days) then let them.

Whilst i am not a big enough man to say that i am 100% correct, i still find the whole premise of the majority of western religions totally dumb. In fact the only religions that have any real respectable qualities are Buddhism and.... well maybe just that.

Whilst i find the beliefs in that as equally retarded as say Christianity or Judaism. It at least has a more globally and personal beneficial outcome.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby MartinC on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:45 pm

Buddhism is gay. You only get one meal a day and you can't have sex.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby James on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:48 pm

Dian Wei wrote:I actually don't care about religion any more, if people are dumb enough to be taken in by these shisters (and they don't even have to manufacture their own miracles these days) then let them.


No one's saying they can't believe what they want, but it is quite sickening that a museum exists that presents a patently absurd case to kids while passing it off as scientifically valid.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby TORSO on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:55 pm

Nearly as bad as the Scientology one where psychology is branded as false and a mind controlling practice
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Re: Creationism!

Postby Dian Wei on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:59 pm

Why is it just as bad, they could be right for all we know.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby meluaz on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:00 pm

mabye the earth was created in six days and there is a such thing as god and all the evidence against it is a test of your faith. i dunno i think religion can be good for alot of people and can help them live better and longer lives, but i am a scientologist rip on me mutha fuckas!!!!
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Re: Creationism!

Postby TORSO on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:03 pm

Well the museum says that psychiatry is responsible for Hitler and the Holocaust

Also they Scientology's members in the 60's managed to get positions in the British mental health association to turn them away from mental health treatments.
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Re: Creationism!

Postby TORSO on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:05 pm

zurabmelua wrote:mabye the earth was created in six days and there is a such thing as god and all the evidence against it is a test of your faith. i dunno i think religion can be good for alot of people and can help them live better and longer lives, but i am a scientologist rip on me mutha fuckas!!!!


You can have your beliefs, just don't shove the dogma down my throat, try convert me or try to give me a personality test :lol:
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