because he's a narcissistic sports pimp who loves the sound of his own keys

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm

the war doesn't effect us does it Iain? or is your countries' capital too far away for you to care?

London isn't his country's capital.

err has their been a major constitutional shakeup that i haven't heard about? London is the capital city of the UK Martin. Y'know, this country? Scotland gets more public spending per head than any other region so i guess theyre still part of this country.

To be honest Blair has not done much good. Look at the NHS its a mess, The cost of houses has shot up so not many peaople will be able to by a house first time. The cost of living as shot up and wages have not, and just look at the crime rate, they have ran out of space in prisons and are letting loads of prisoners out today. (that is to do with Blair). I cant think of one good thing Blair has done. Not forgetting the number of Illegal imigrants in this country.

To be honest do you really think this country will be better under Gordon brown.

I actually agree with the bulk of what Metal Iain has said. Wouldn't have placed him as a Lib Dem though!

boovidge - it's likely, but let's remember that absolutely nothing we know so far connects that car-bomb to the Iraq War

MartinC wrote:He's doing a guest solo on the new Pitiful Reign album.

Finally a decent Pitiful Reign solo..... ooo he went there

James wrote:I actually agree with the bulk of what Metal Iain has said. Wouldn't have placed him as a Lib Dem though!

I agree as well

Hostile wrote:Oh, wait, now I get it. I've worked out why I can't sympathise with Metal Ian's point of view. It's because he's Anne Coulter with a dick. Seriously, she's the only other person I've heard of who is so ultra-conservative that she can care only about herself, and laugh at the massacre of half a million innocent people.

The problem with you two is that your unique sense of morality refuses to be hinged down by cumbersome principles like respect, humanity or common decency, and so can hardly be grasped by anyone who suffers from those ideological stumbling blocks. Our loss, I guess.

I'm not ultra-conservative. I just feel complete apathy to the fate of the Iraqi people. If anything, I'm just responding to the way you word your argument. You use terms like 'massacre' and 'war criminal' that make the whole thing sound premeditated.

And yes, I have a very unique sense of morality. At least what I say isn't that much of a cliché though eh.

boovidge wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm

the war doesn't effect us does it Iain? or is your countries' capital too far away for you to care?

Actually, someone I went to school with was one of the three dead from yesterday. He's from a village two miles away from where I grew up. I didn't particularly know him but you must forgive me for not wallowing in sorrow because some guy I went to school with stepped on a land mine in Iraq.

boovidge wrote:err has their been a major constitutional shakeup that i haven't heard about? London is the capital city of the UK Martin. Y'know, this country? Scotland gets more public spending per head than any other region so i guess theyre still part of this country.

Scots get £1, 000 per head more than people from any other part of the UK. However, Scottish oil revenues are worth £5, 000, 000, 000 and Scotland has a population of £5, 000, 000. Do the maths and don't give me any of your recycled bullshit about Scots being unfairly advantaged by their position in the UK. Why do you think Scotland ratified the Treaty of Union? Because we were so in love with the people that had been knocking seven shades out of us for nigh on four hundred years?

Oh and, no, London is not the capital of this country. London is the capital of the UK, a sovereign state. Belfast, Cardiff, Edinburgh and London are the capital cities of the countries that make up the UK.

James wrote:I actually agree with the bulk of what Metal Iain has said. Wouldn't have placed him as a Lib Dem though!

Well, I voted for them in the last Westminster election but I couldn't be arsed registering to vote for the recent Holyrood election. Pretty shameful considering I'm about to get a degree in Politics but still.

I am actually on the left of centre when it comes to the provision of social welfare but people like boovidge have slowly but surely turned me into a staunch conservative regarding Foreign Policy. If I were rich I'd so vote for the Conservatives but, seeing as I have about 27p to my name, I'll stick to the left, for now...

Dun dun DUN!

Iain's politically scene

No but seriously Iain you're not of the left if you dont believe that the Iraq war is a terrible waste of money which could have been put to better use on social welfare.

Metal Iain wrote: people like boovidge have slowly but surely turned me into a staunch conservative regarding Foreign Policy.

Iain at one point you agreed with me but said something like you didn't like the 'hyper liberal' way i'd put it. I guess you have to face up the reality that most people in this country have a 'hyper liberal' view on the Iraq war (i.e they think it was wrong.) You clearly don't care about the people of the middle east which is fair enough, but you refuse to accept the reality that this war does effect us directly.

And i'm not a liberal

Who says I don't?

Half of this argument stemmed from the fact that hyper-liberals piss me off to the point where I'd be willing to vote Tory!

Seriously, do you have a solution to the UK's Foreign Policy woes that the government just haven't thought of? It's all very well and good to sit on the grass outside Westminster with ham and cucumber sandwiches holding banners reading 'No war!' and 'Blair is a murderer!' But the number of these same people who seem have to grasped the fact that the government simply can't withdraw British troops from Iraq without making the situation worse strikes me as negligible.

To be honest, I'm sick of hearing about it on the news as well because it's really not news to me anymore. How many times can you be told that 60 Iraqi schoolchildren have just been blown up before it really loses its affect on you?

And then you get people that make fun of Bush for not being able to talk or think properly. He's only the President, it's not as if he has the power to go to war yet so many people are quick to label this as 'Bush's War' or whatever.