Seriously, as soon as they lift the murder ban, you're all gonna get it.

this is excellent news! Football matches are way better because of the ban and now gigs will be too!

I can just see the uproar this is gonna cause though,

the smoking band rules, smoking pissed me off coz it made my hangovers so much worse, i may as well have smoked anyway coz i had to inhale about ten packs every night coz my mates are chain smokers, smelly bastards haha. having said that, moterhead just came on, and if lemmy heard me say that i think he'd kill me haha

amok wrote: having said that, moterhead just came on, and if lemmy heard me say that i think he'd kill me haha

he would anol ya walloper!!

well either way i dont mind, dont really go out into weston...

i think its shit that its banned in private clubs though, i mean surely you should be able to open a bar exclusivly for smokers right?

i know how bad smoking is blah blah blah blah im going to die horribly but theyre my lungs and if i choose to put stuff in them, and im in the privacy of somewhere that permits that, amongst other people who have no problem with it, then i see no issue. why is a PUBLIC health thing invading on my PRIVATE rights

[edit]we have a smoking canteen in work; if you dont like smoke you dont go in there, simple as that; but because of the new law were all being forced outside, wheres the sense in that? if its all smokers in the confines of one room whos health is being destroyed by smoke without their choice?

for those who get annoyed by smoke im glad, but you also have to see the bad side to laws like these, its one step further into a nanny state

Pez wrote:well either way i dont mind, dont really go out into weston...

i think its shit that its banned in private clubs though, i mean surely you should be able to open a bar exclusivly for smokers right?

i know how bad smoking is blah blah blah blah im going to die horribly but theyre my lungs and if i choose to put stuff in them, and im in the privacy of somewhere that permits that, amongst other people who have no problem with it, then i see no issue. why is a PUBLIC health thing invading on my PRIVATE rights

[edit]we have a smoking canteen in work; if you dont like smoke you dont go in there, simple as that; but because of the new law were all being forced outside, wheres the sense in that? if its all smokers in the confines of one room whos health is being destroyed by smoke without their choice?

for those who get annoyed by smoke im glad, but you also have to see the bad side to laws like these, its one step further into a nanny state

The thing is, from every smoker I've heard from who opposes this, they just come up with the same point - "I should be able to put whatever I want to into my body", which I agree with. This new legislation won't stop you doing that, it'll just limit the places in which you can do it. You ask why a public health legislation is invading your private rights, but really, it is your private rights that are invading on everyone else's public rights.

People who have made the decision that they don't want to smoke don't appreciate it when they have no choice but to inhale second-hand smoke because there are people smoking at every club/pub etc. I personally don't think that this legislation will save as many lives as the government think it will, because at the end of the day, if you want to smoke, you will smoke. I just don't agree that the general public who don't smoke have to tip-toe around smokers as if they're the ones doing something wrong.

I have tried to resist this thread but I cannot help but butt in.I can't believe all the self-righteous bullshit (obviously, not you Atom, that is a WHOLE different issue. Apologies to your bro for having to put up with that shit)...

First things first, I don't smoke. In fact, whenever I have smoked a fag I have felt disgusted with myself in the morning. However, if I get pissed I do often end up poncing a fag for some inexplicable reason,especially because I always avoided smoking like the plague. The occasional fag started when going out with my last ex (a heavy smoker), then I started having one once in a blue moon. The reason I ever smoke a cigarette is because of the environment I am in. If smoking was not allowed in public places I would never smoke another fag. So for my own health I should be in support of this law. But I'm not.

We have no smoking areas in pubs. There is no reason why a pub or club cannot have a no smoking policy. Why the fuck do we need it legislated and imposed everywhere? This is going to be a real inconvenience to a lot of people who are already suffering from a wretched addiction to a stupid substance. Yes, it should be an individual's right to not have smoke in their faces but it should also be someone's right to blow smoke. You wouldn't like it if you had to go outside in the freezing cold at winter time for fresh air, why should they have to go outside and freeze for dirty air? Create more smoke free areas, but retain some smoking ones too. What's this all or nothing bullshit.

Also, murder is to kill someone illegally. Captial punishment and military action are technically not murder. To legalise murder is a contradiction in terms.

Sorry, rant over.

as much as i love to smoke in a pub or whatever when im haviing a pint! i agree with this! its not really fair that people are forced to basically smoke someone elses cig because they wanna go out an have a good time. im gonna fuckin hate the ban coz im a lazy bastard an cant be arsed to get up an go outside for a cig but ill probably finally quit coz of it! save my money for more worthwhile things like beer!! hahaha

I totally agree with Pez tbh, and Caps picked up on it too, for what reasons can't there be smoker-friendly pubs?? I mean, c'mon, if you don't smoke, you won't go in one will ya?? So how does 'the general public' get harmed by this? Surely it may even be better to have all the smokers in one place rather than having loads of pissed people hanging round in the streets? That's probably more dangerous yo the general public if you ask me!!!

I don't see a problem making it possible to apply for smoking licenses for members only places, but if it's a choice between smoking anywhere or smoking nowhere, I'd go with the latter.

poison_was_the_cure wrote:im gonna fuckin hate the ban coz im a lazy bastard an cant be arsed to get up an go outside for a cig but ill probably finally quit coz of it!

i agree.

i smoke, i have done for years, i dont like the fact that i smoke but it is an additction. just the same way people are additcted to shit like Heroin and Mc Donalds etc, it is just as hard to quit! i have wanted to give up for a long time but have never had the will power to bring myself to do it.i totally agree with Caps, these sorts of laws and legistration are utterly stupid and are just basically taking the piss out of the general publics inteligence and comon sense.

i do want to quit and i hope that because of the smoking ban, i will finally have the push and will be able to give up. but i am not happy that this decision has been forced upon me by the government.

Whatever. Ban smoking, ban veils, and then round everyone up and fucking shoot them.

MartinC wrote:Whatever. Ban smoking, ban veils, and then round everyone up and fucking shoot them.

And then pour lime on them?

I hate smoking but they shouldn't be allowed to blanket ban it.

For a start, smoking is one of the most heavily taxed activities in the country. If less and less people smoke, the government lose billions, and they will only try and get that money back by increasing taxes on everyone else. I'd rather other people pay to kill themselves than me pay for them not to.

Secondly, the danger from passive smoking for most MOST people, is extremely overrated. 3 months of passive smoking = 30 minutes by a barbeque.

Thirdly, people should be polite and ask before they spark up in public places. However, pubs themselves are a different kettle of fish. If you're going in to drink alcohol, which is just about as dangerous in the long term, yet you complain about someone smoking near you, you're a fucking hypocrite and shouldn't go into pubs in the first place. Pubs are NOT healthy places. If you want a healthy drink go to a spa or something.

Xzar wrote:For a start, smoking is one of the most heavily taxed activities in the country. If less and less people smoke, the government lose billions, and they will only try and get that money back by increasing taxes on everyone else. I'd rather other people pay to kill themselves than me pay for them not to.

Think of the money they will save that would have gone to curing people of smoking related diseases.

I just dont want to have to wash my long flowing locks every time I come back stinking from the bloody pub.