jonny_boy34 wrote:.. Team Ico come out with. Ico and Shadow of the Colossus were two of the most amazingly original and unbelievable games on the PS2, and whatever they come up with for the PS3 is sure to be even more amazing...

here is all anyone knows about their next effort

http://www.scei.co.jp/saiyo/career/wanda.html

so if your a designer or artist you can get a job working on it! Yuo're right though, they are an amazing team and I can't wait for their next effort.

metaldazza wrote:here is all anyone knows about their next effort

http://www.scei.co.jp/saiyo/career/wanda.html

so if your a designer or artist you can get a job working on it! Yuo're right though, they are an amazing team and I can't wait for their next effort.

... and for anyone who doesn't read Japanese?

I'll get a PS3 at some point in time to play online football games, and (irrespective of how poor people have been saying it is) MGS4.

The A-Bomb!

But yes, I shall proceed to town on the morrow (well, later today) and see about purchasing an Box of X. I'm meant to be heading in to town for a few pints anyway so, no doubt, I'll come home with three Xboxes and a tub of Vaseline.

personally i hate the whole retro gaming obsession, i love new more powerful machines coming out and better games with better graphics

meluaz wrote:personally i hate the whole retro gaming obsession,

Hurrah!

meluaz wrote:i love new more powerful machines coming...

Oh aye...

zykloned wrote:and (irrespective of how poor people have been saying it is) MGS4.

Who's been saying it's poor? It's got amazing reviews, and everyone I've spoken to who's played it says it's amazing, and I've played it and it's amazing! Obviously it's definitely only for people who like MGS and have followed the storyline, but it's all the more amazing for it.

I've been tempted to get a PS3 or something, but theres only about four games that I'd wanna play for it so I'm not sure if I'll bother. Apprently they're rather unreliable...

meluaz wrote:personally i hate the whole retro gaming obsession, i love new more powerful machines coming out and better games with better graphics

just think Zurab you are retrogaming right now.
in ten years time when youre 23,you will be looking back on the ps3 and xbox 360 and thinking "they WERE amazing".
no doubt you will still have them and be playing your fave games in the many years to come.

when you were 6 or 7years old the consoles of your day were probably the ps1 and n64 so any thing before then ie:nes,megadrive,snes,master system etc would seem very primitive to you and extremely dated and crap.

thing is,its the same with me.if i was a true retrogamer i should be playing amigas and commodores all day,but again,to me they are too primitive,dated and naff although according to someone 5-10yrs older than myself im sure they would see them as the best gaming thing ever.
how many 28+yr olds do you hear bangin on about the spectrum or atari being the ultimate gaming kit?bloody loads.

there will always come a time where we get out of touch/dont want the new fancy,latest,pricey console.i think a lot of people never update their console after a certain age.for example betwwen the age of 25-35yrs.
i have a ps2 and thats where it ends for me on the gaming road.

my mate hasnt played his ps2 in nearly 1year.its just his dvd player.plus he had a kid a few months back.
out of all my 30 colleagues at dixons "home of the latest technology" i only know 4 of them who have a 360 or ps3.

i think the best time for video games is when at secondary school.nothing beats all talking about the newest games/consoles at break time and going round peoples houses to do multiplayer etc.also birthdays and xmas were like the ultimate time to have a new game everyone else may already have got and also with a paper round you could save and get the game/console yourself which made it even more to look forward to.
at 18 most peoples interests have changed priority ie:drink,clubs/women etc so the whole gaming thing in general becomes a lesser subject and the multiplayer thing with a few mates comes occasionally when everyone has time.
even my 2brothers are like "why do we wanna play that ancient rubbish" whenever i ask them whos up for micro machines/crash team racing/bomberman etc.

i know theres onlline gaming but im not that much of a computer geek.RPG's on snes and ps1 with strategy guides are as geeky as it gets for me as far as 1player stuff goes

the good thing with retrogames(even the ps2 compilations)is that you dont need to book a month off work to actually get somewhere on them.they are just cool to pick up and play with minimal fuss,no tutorials or endless training scenarios and you can complete them within an hour or two.

i think this is the first post in which some might say,"Rik your getting old". (im only 25)

In terms of gameplay, retro games absolutely own, especially the platform genre which has almost all but died out now - Sonic, Mario, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat etc.

Some will probably say that the graphics are part of the appeal, but for some games like FF7 on the PS1, they really do look a bit dated now. What would be the best game ever made would be FF7 but re-engineered for PS3 graphics, like they did in the tech demo for the PS3 launch.

I don't think re-worked graphics would work for a lot of the classics though, Sonic and Street Fighter are probably best left as they are, and I still love them. Gameplay is at the heart of what a game should be, so you can have all the pretty-pretty graphics in the world, but if it plays like a bag of shit then the graphics don't mean a thing.

extemely cool way to put it Craig.
gameplay makes the game.if a game can make you re-play it again and again then its a good game.the graphics and sound do help but are not essential.

heres 2 examples: Outrun:greatest video game music ever plus wicked graphics(at the time of course),superb handling.
this game,although 5mins to complete is just so addictive and replayable.

Tetris:rubbish graphics,irritating music and generally frustrating but that didnt stop the millions
of gameboy owners getting hooked on it.

look at nintendo in general.from the n64 and up to the wii the graphics havent really been that great,yet the innovative/interactive gameplay on these nintendo consoles(inc:ds) cant be beaten.

and yeah,updating 2D games to 3D kinda defeats the purpose.
but it would be good to see some ps1 rpgs recreated on the ps3.theyd have to keep the story,layout,music etc identical but enhancing the graphics and sound would be amazing.

zykloned wrote:I'll get a PS3 at some point in time to play online football games, and (irrespective of how poor people have been saying it is) MGS4.

People have just been saying it's too much of a film and too many cut scenes are ridiculously long; but this is why I would LIKE the game! MGS (and I'm sure I've said this somewhere before) is also about the experience you have while playing it, so I would happily go through a LONG TING cut scene to find out more! I'm Snake in disguise you see..

zykloned wrote:

zykloned wrote:I'll get a PS3 at some point in time to play online football games, and (irrespective of how poor people have been saying it is) MGS4.

People have just been saying it's too much of a film and too many cut scenes are ridiculously long; but this is why I would LIKE the game! MGS (and I'm sure I've said this somewhere before) is also about the experience you have while playing it, so I would happily go through a LONG TING cut scene to find out more! I'm Snake in disguise you see..

Yeah, exactly. That's just what MGS has always been like, some people just can't handle the power of Kojima. The cut scenes are the best bit, and this time you can pause them during the scenes! Hooray!

See, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Devil May Cry 4 are probably the only reasons I'd get a PS3. And Street Fighter 4, but chances are that'll be a bit shit

devil may cry 4 was alright, a very slightly above average game, but im a sci fi fps freak, i still play half life trying to complete the main story in less than a few hours